45 thoughts on “Told ya so!

  1. patti

    Didn’t particularly like the way several of the questions were worded – left me to make choices on their scale that were not accurate, as is often the case with this sort of thing. I came out libertarian as well but am less socially liberal than you and more economically conservative than you…

  2. patti

    bet if both of us could answer the questions accurately we’d have been neck and neck and even more conservative than this thing showed – but yeah, libertarian leanings for sure.

  3. Wellesley Dad

    Interesting test. I’m considered a Centrist, which is why I believe too. Just as socially liberal as you Pam, but less “Economically Permissive”.

  4. Bitterroot

    I didn’t like the way the questions were worded either – some of them were phrased such that I felt it created a bias against the preferred answer. (i.e., some evoked an emotional bias toward a given answer.) Some were just worded poorly, period.

    Some amused me:

    “Most people are too stupid to know what’s best for them.”

    Does this include the current Congress?

    And some were provocative:

    “It should be legal for two consenting adults to challenge each other to a duel and fight a Death Match.”

    If it were, don’t you know the networks would be fighting for the televised rights to create a ‘Reality TV’ hit. Come to think of it, if we were to license the rights to C-SPAN it would be a great way to clear out Congress. And Democrats thought their recess Town Hall meetings were rough before! :rofl:

    Anyway, my result:

    You are a Social Conservative
    (35% permissive)

    and an…

    Economic Conservative
    (71% permissive)

    You are best described as a:

    Republican

    You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

    I would definitely consider myself more Libertarian than Republican, but I’m not going to argue, especially since it placed me in the company of RWR and W! :thumbs:

  5. Peter

    Huh. I got a “Test has expired” message. Still, I know where I am, politically, right square in the libertarian wing of the Republican Party. I can’t be a true “big L” Libertarian for I do not believe in legalizing drugs, having seen the damage they cause. Nor do I believe in public sexual deviation. I,like everyone else have my kinks but only my sweetie knows them.

    As an aside, it was a grand day when I finally had the seniority to get out of those “arrest all those men in the park for doing the nasty in the bushes with each other” sweeps. It was amazing how many of those men were married. The phone call home must have been amazing to listen to. Thank the Lord I didn’t have to listen. :shock: :puke:

    It was bad enough having so many of them weeping in the county cruiser on the way to the slammer.

    1. Pam Post author

      That’s just sad. They need to use rest stop bathrooms like celebrities do!

      Okay, that was bad… but has nobody heard of motels?? Homes? Clubs?

    1. Pam Post author

      I’m opposed to legalizing drugs as well… but that wasn’t on the quiz, was it? Hmmm..

      And PUBLIC displays of sexuality of any kind… no. Save it for private. I don’t care what consenting adults do in their bedroom as long as I don’t have to see it. Blech.

  6. patti

    nope not on test. just the reason i can’t call myself a real libertarian. the test just had enough weird questions that the answer didn’t really fall on their agree/disagree scale. all it would take is one of those falling one notch off to change a percentage by 5 points one way or another. i think my final numbers were 5 percent less socially liberal than yours and 5 percent more fiscally conservative than yours – put there were plenty of questions that were pretty much weird or ill fitting.
    i don’t want government deciding who should or shouldn’t have children – but i know plenty of people who should never have had them. i don’t want government paying any artist to do their thing, i think all human life is pretty much of equal value regardless of nationality – but i’d rather see a muslim terrorist killed than an american soldier, i don’t think you have to go to church to be spiritual – in fact i think churches/denominations insert too much of their human ideas into church structure – i wouldn’t really use lethal force against someone to protect my property, but i would to protect my family… that sort of thing

    1. Pam Post author

      Exactly! That’s my thinking as well, the test made things seem different. Like you said, ill-fitting.

      I went and started a few other tests and just gave up; they’re all skewed to whoever wrote them.

  7. Folly

    I think we should pay people NOT to have children. As a former family law attorney, there are too many people breeding who shouldn’t.

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  9. Wellesley Dad

    I dunno….I adopted two of my children from foster care and, although there’s an argument for their mom not being allowed to breed (given she’d lost 4 others to the state previously at the tender young age of 26), if she hadn’t I would have been deprived of one of the best things that’s ever happened to me.

    I’d rather make it illegal for people to adopt from out of the country….there’s lots of American kids that need good homes.

    1. Pam Post author

      There are many reasons why youngest stepdaughter shouldn’t be allowed to breed, but what if she’d aborted my grandkids or just not had them? The ones who were adopted by her sister?

      That would be a true loss and makes me sad to even think it.

      Why DO people fly to parts unknown to adopt when there are children needing homes here? Too many constrictive rules?

      1. Wellesley Dad

        No Pam, it’s actually not any harder to adopt locally than remotely. Well, you have to take a 9 week parenting class (which we who breed should probably also take), but everything else is the same – except for two things:

        1. You don’t have to fly once maybe twice to some strange & possibly dangerous country,
        2. You don’t have to pay $20K to $30K when you adopt from foster care (you do if it’s a private adoption).
        3. And the real reason: there’s less of a chance you’ll come across the birth parents.

        Otherwise, you pretty much have the same rules.

        I just heard a story this weekend from my kids’ previous foster mom about another kid she’d fostered who was put back with his birth mom because he couldn’t get adopted and budgets were slim. His mom had lost custody because she has Munchausen by Proxy Syndrome, and was poisoning him slowly to get attention. THERE’s someone who shouldn’t have been allowed to breed.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchausen_syndrome_by_proxy

        1. Pam Post author

          How could they possibly justify giving a child back under those conditions? She’ll just try and kill her child, preferably slowly. Unbelievable!

  10. Folly

    I’m talking about the people who breed and breed and breed and don’t give them up for adoption. I’ve seen what they do to their poor kids.

    1. Pam Post author

      And the state doesn’t step in and take the kids? They were on YsD like white on rice and most of the time she was doing okay as a Mom…

  11. Folly

    Depends on the state. Some states are so overburdened with kids that they just can’t take care of them. However, to give a kid back to a mom with Munchhausen by Proxy is a death sentence. I’d adopt if I had the money.

    1. Pam Post author

      I was adopted and can highly recommend it. ;)

      Oldest Daughter and her husband couldn’t have afforded adopted two children, but the state was very generous…

  12. Mrs. Who

    Couldn’t they have an ‘I don’t give a crap one way or the other’ button?

    Social Conservative
    (36% permissive)

    and an…

    Economic Conservative
    (70% permissive)

    You are best described as a:

    Republican

    I shocked the hell out of a liberal Dem at work. She and I get along fine on a professional level. So fine, in fact, that she had no clue about my political persuasions. She made a derogatory remark about the Tea Party, and her mouth literally dropped when I said I supported them.

    She had to ask me ‘really???’ several times. I told her I wasn’t just against the Dems…I was against all the crap that goes on in American politics today.

    I think I’ve disappointed her, lol!

  13. diamond dave

    I actually came in as socially moderate (56%), but economically conservative (65%). Probably because I do believe that a few things need some regulation due to the potential for abuse and neglect if given too much freedom, but only in limited circumstances.

    I’m with Mrs. Who – I could’ve used a “don’t give a crap” button on several questions.

    And to some questions, like allowing parents to have kids they can’t afford, my answer would be “personally, hell no! but let the gov’t dictate such and we can kiss our freedoms goodbye”.

    1. Wellesley Dad

      I agree with you Dave on the government dictating who can have kids and who can’t. I just think we need to have standards for parenting so that they can take them away when things are bad. That said, I wonder how the standards get set? Why aren’t the kids of a welfare mother taken away?

      With my adopted kids, it was that the birth mom left them with a sitter on Christmas eve and didn’t come back for days. That’s a clear parenting failure.

      @Folly : By the way, there is aid to those who’d adopt from Foster Care but can’t afford it. I assume it basically transfers the welfare payment, but at least the kid gets good parenting. And in Mass., they also get tuition (not all fees) paid in a public college.

  14. mike

    I got
    You are a Social Liberal
    (70% permissive)

    Economic Conservative
    (75% permissive)

    You are best described as a:

    libertarian

    You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

    I also agree the correct options were not there

  15. Peter

    Dang, this time the test worked. Who knew that I’m 65% socially liberal? And 87% fiscally conservative. I guess that falls into “I don’t care what two (or more) adults do as long as they do it inside where they don’t scare the horses” philosophy I’ve held since boyhood. Must be all that Heinlein I read as a kid. As to fiscally conservative,well, me not caring what folks do in private does not include a desire to pay for what they do.

    A few of the questions were interesting. I kind of like the idea of bringing back duels, I suspect manners would improve in a hurry. And we’d be rid of Bill Maher and Whoopie Goldberg in the first few days. And that Meathead guy, Rob Somethingorother. The TEA Parties are going to bring on Nazism because of the fear and anger? Has that asshole slept through the Bush years? Seems there was fear and anger then, from the left. Hell, Obama has nothing to sell but fear and anger, even today. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

    1. Pam Post author

      I wanted to say yes to duels, but unfortunately had my big girl panties on yesterday. Maybe I should re-take it?
      :devil:

      Fear and anger are their stock in trade. It’s sad.

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  17. Lee Ann

    Very interesting results….
    You are a

    Social Conservative
    (30% permissive)

    and an…

    Economic Liberal
    (33% permissive)

    You are best described as a:

    Totalitarian

    You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

    Hmmm…I may have to have DH take this and see where he ends up. LOL!

  18. Lee Ann

    Well I do have a strong sense of right and wrong…that was accurate. But I’m not sure about the economic part of it. :rofl:

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